altheas ashes confirm plz. - Guild Wars Forums

Starsky-sama · Jun 29, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47

did anet recently update the graphic on altheas ashes...

its now the graphic for glittering dust? or is it supposed to be the urn graphic.
(or the ashes show as glittering dust graphic w/o the urn.)

just want this confirmed.

fenx.

Desslok · Jun 29, 2005, 01:28 AM // 01:28

I helped my wife's second character do this on Sunday and the graphic was the same as Glittering Dust (which is a change from when I did it some time ago).

Interestingly enough, even though I did not have the quest in my log I still was able to click the altar and get my own set of ashes. Also, the game gave us both two sets of ashes, too.

DrSLUGFly · Jun 29, 2005, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Here's a bit of craziness!

it is the "glittering dust" graphic... and you CAN, that's right you CAN buy it from another person in Piken. Last night I was running through the quest with a third character and (I had already found the ghost) and many people were trying to sell the ashes for 200g each. I convinced a guy to let me try it first and I'd pay him afterwards if it worked. I was so totally shocked when it worked that I gave him double price. I think they should fix this so it doesn't work, but for anyone who has already done the mission and can't be arsed to do it with an alt, buying the ashes works.

HOWEVER:

One of my guild mates bought ashes at the same time, and it didn't work for him. English isn't his first language so I couldn't get to the root of the problem, but I suspect that he bought the barradin family urn, which is not at all the same as the ashes...

MaglorD · Jun 29, 2005, 02:08 AM // 02:08

Yup it now works. I think Anet really messed up big time on this one. Before a recent patch, it was not possible to buy the ashes as the only item in inventory was the Barradin family urn. Selling the Barradin family urn does not help someone else complete the quest.

This is a huge source of controversy because someone who played a character before a recent patch would think that those trying to sell ashes were scamming when they're not, at least not anymore.

I also consider it extremely lame to allow someone to complete the quest by getting the ashes from someone else.

DrSLUGFly · Jun 29, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

for 2000 xp??? damn right it's lame! but for my third character? damn right I'll buy them

MaglorD · Jun 29, 2005, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by DrSLUGFly

for 2000 xp??? damn right it's lame! but for my third character? damn right I'll buy them

third character pffft. I completed this quest the usual way on all my 6 character professions

It's not really that difficult and can be done with henchies.

DrSLUGFly · Jun 29, 2005, 03:20 AM // 03:20

it's not the difficulty involved (and henchies tend to be easier on missions like this one cuz they don't run ahead) it's the time spent. first you have to get to Grendich, then slowly and painstakingly clear out the area around the fire temples, just outside the gullet... long time. I did it during my lunchbreak when I only had 1 hour, cuz I bought the ashes

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BobTheBolshevik · Jun 29, 2005, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Is buying the ashes to avoid the time to beat the quest considered an exploit?

DrSLUGFly · Jun 29, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15

It could be I suppose... I don't think it's a serious exploit though, since it's taking advantage of an oversight as opposed to a bug. I mean, if I had a box of blank cd's at my house and you needed them but the store was 30 minutes away, I'd sell them to you for the same price I got them for. This isn't much different. I do think that it should be fixed so that you need to click the altar yourself to finish the quest.

On a related note, the last time I did the quest (second character) 3 of us only got 2 ashes... we had to rezone through Dragon's Gullet and clear the area (smaller this time cuz we were closer) again to get the ashes a third time. If simply clicking the altar updated the quest it would take care of both these problems.

Bwsk8 · Jun 29, 2005, 05:50 AM // 05:50

I did the quest and did not recieve the ashes but someone gave them to me for free so I lucked out.

kleps · Jun 29, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by Bwsk8

I did the quest and did not recieve the ashes but someone gave them to me for free so I lucked out.

same. i took the quest, someone gave me some ashes and bam, done! didn't even have to leave piken's.

mqstout · Jun 29, 2005, 05:53 PM // 17:53

This is compounded by the fact that they don't take any ashes from you for doing the quest, just checking to see if you have them.

Sofonisba · Jun 29, 2005, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Anyone else actually like the challenge of the quest? I would never consider buying or accepting a gift of the ashes. I like to see how each of my character in turn handles it. Yes, it seems like a cakewalk later on, but remember when you were lvl 10?

Sir Skullcrasher · Jun 29, 2005, 06:07 PM // 18:07

My ING is Grim Skybasher, i give out free ashes. Most of time, i help people with the ashes quest and i would get the quest item too. I would get 12 to 8 ashes per quest (i guess it depends on the number of people you took on that quest) since you can't sell the ashes for gold, i give them out for free. Usually for my guild mate or someone out there that need the ashes

MSecorsky · Jun 29, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Anyone that buys them instead of earning them needs a good kick in the ash. A cheat's a cheat, even if it's allowed by oversight.

EF2NYD · Jun 29, 2005, 07:00 PM // 19:00

I can confirm this. Getting ashes from the altar gave me 4 urns of ashes, and giving them to another party finished the quest for them.

Crom The Grim · Jun 29, 2005, 07:03 PM // 19:03

interesting, i was unaware that it actually worked, last night i saw some person selling it nd wondered if it worked.

Shin Lail · Jun 29, 2005, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Anyone that buys them instead of earning them needs a good kick in the ash. A cheat's a cheat, even if it's allowed by oversight.

What is a cheat?

Trash to one man is gold to another.

Cheating to you is not cheating to everyone.

silvertemplar · Jun 29, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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first you have to get to Grendich,

Well there is a skill-trainer there, i would go there for that alone.

As for the Ashes, i could actually transfer it between characters via storage. It wasn't actually planned

, i was moving glittering dust into storage and swopped it around, on another char it happened again and i got a nice "Quest: Altheas' Ashes Updated" ...

MSecorsky · Jun 29, 2005, 07:14 PM // 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin Lail

What is a cheat?

Trash to one man is gold to another.

Cheating to you is not cheating to everyone.

Taking credit for something you didn't do... you don't consider that cheating? Dishonest?

Perhaps aNet will fix this soon.

Jun 29, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47	#1
Starsky-sama Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Land of the Z Chest \o/ Guild: [NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil. Profession: W/	altheas ashes confirm plz. did anet recently update the graphic on altheas ashes... its now the graphic for glittering dust? or is it supposed to be the urn graphic. (or the ashes show as glittering dust graphic w/o the urn.) just want this confirmed. fenx.

Jun 29, 2005, 01:28 AM // 01:28	#2
Desslok Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/N	I helped my wife's second character do this on Sunday and the graphic was the same as Glittering Dust (which is a change from when I did it some time ago). Interestingly enough, even though I did not have the quest in my log I still was able to click the altar and get my own set of ashes. Also, the game gave us both two sets of ashes, too.

Jun 29, 2005, 01:54 AM // 01:54	#3
DrSLUGFly Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: European Server or International	Here's a bit of craziness! it is the "glittering dust" graphic... and you CAN, that's right you CAN buy it from another person in Piken. Last night I was running through the quest with a third character and (I had already found the ghost) and many people were trying to sell the ashes for 200g each. I convinced a guy to let me try it first and I'd pay him afterwards if it worked. I was so totally shocked when it worked that I gave him double price. I think they should fix this so it doesn't work, but for anyone who has already done the mission and can't be arsed to do it with an alt, buying the ashes works. HOWEVER: One of my guild mates bought ashes at the same time, and it didn't work for him. English isn't his first language so I couldn't get to the root of the problem, but I suspect that he bought the barradin family urn, which is not at all the same as the ashes...

Jun 29, 2005, 02:08 AM // 02:08	#4
MaglorD Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005	Yup it now works. I think Anet really messed up big time on this one. Before a recent patch, it was not possible to buy the ashes as the only item in inventory was the Barradin family urn. Selling the Barradin family urn does not help someone else complete the quest. This is a huge source of controversy because someone who played a character before a recent patch would think that those trying to sell ashes were scamming when they're not, at least not anymore. I also consider it extremely lame to allow someone to complete the quest by getting the ashes from someone else.

Jun 29, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06	#5
DrSLUGFly Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: European Server or International	for 2000 xp??? damn right it's lame! but for my third character? damn right I'll buy them

Jun 29, 2005, 03:20 AM // 03:20	#7
DrSLUGFly Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: European Server or International	it's not the difficulty involved (and henchies tend to be easier on missions like this one cuz they don't run ahead) it's the time spent. first you have to get to Grendich, then slowly and painstakingly clear out the area around the fire temples, just outside the gullet... long time. I did it during my lunchbreak when I only had 1 hour, cuz I bought the ashes .

Jun 29, 2005, 04:04 AM // 04:04	#8
BobTheBolshevik Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: May 2005	Is buying the ashes to avoid the time to beat the quest considered an exploit?

Jun 29, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15	#9
DrSLUGFly Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: European Server or International	It could be I suppose... I don't think it's a serious exploit though, since it's taking advantage of an oversight as opposed to a bug. I mean, if I had a box of blank cd's at my house and you needed them but the store was 30 minutes away, I'd sell them to you for the same price I got them for. This isn't much different. I do think that it should be fixed so that you need to click the altar yourself to finish the quest. On a related note, the last time I did the quest (second character) 3 of us only got 2 ashes... we had to rezone through Dragon's Gullet and clear the area (smaller this time cuz we were closer) again to get the ashes a third time. If simply clicking the altar updated the quest it would take care of both these problems.

Jun 29, 2005, 05:50 AM // 05:50	#10
Bwsk8 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: R/E	I did the quest and did not recieve the ashes but someone gave them to me for free so I lucked out.

Jun 29, 2005, 05:53 PM // 17:53	#12
mqstout Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pittsburgh	This is compounded by the fact that they don't take any ashes from you for doing the quest, just checking to see if you have them.

Jun 29, 2005, 06:03 PM // 18:03	#13
Sofonisba Desert Nomad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Guild: The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]	Anyone else actually like the challenge of the quest? I would never consider buying or accepting a gift of the ashes. I like to see how each of my character in turn handles it. Yes, it seems like a cakewalk later on, but remember when you were lvl 10?

Jun 29, 2005, 06:07 PM // 18:07	#14
Sir Skullcrasher Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California Guild: 15 over 50 [Rare] Profession: W/Mo	My ING is Grim Skybasher, i give out free ashes. Most of time, i help people with the ashes quest and i would get the quest item too. I would get 12 to 8 ashes per quest (i guess it depends on the number of people you took on that quest) since you can't sell the ashes for gold, i give them out for free. Usually for my guild mate or someone out there that need the ashes

Jun 29, 2005, 06:57 PM // 18:57	#15
MSecorsky Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: So Cal Guild: The Sinister Vanguard Profession: Me/	Anyone that buys them instead of earning them needs a good kick in the ash. A cheat's a cheat, even if it's allowed by oversight.

Jun 29, 2005, 07:00 PM // 19:00	#16
EF2NYD Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2005	I can confirm this. Getting ashes from the altar gave me 4 urns of ashes, and giving them to another party finished the quest for them.

Jun 29, 2005, 07:03 PM // 19:03	#17
Crom The Grim Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Profession: W/E	interesting, i was unaware that it actually worked, last night i saw some person selling it nd wondered if it worked.